... Joi Ito on the omnipresent Meme 2.0: It should be Web 3.0, and that will be 3D. I don't believe a word: This is ridiculous, going back to 1990. Found it because someone mentioned David Gelernter in the comments, linking his "Mirror Worlds" (1991!) to geo-tagging. I agree: 3D will be geo, or rather: augmented reality.
Gelernter's theories (probably not the software that was developed out of it) are a long-term favorite of mine. Gelernter's Lifestreams are "Web 2.0", if the concept does make any sense. Could somebody explore and analyze that. (I've got not enough time, being a Hypertasker and a Life Hacker).
Why has he never been mentioned or invited? This is a very short-sighted discourse, it seems: Ignorance Of Your Culture Is not Considered Cool, as The Redisents said, and it can Damage Your Thinking.
Posted by martin at November 2, 2005 12:34 PM | TrackBackTwo things that come to mind:
First, Joi's posting is another instance of the application of gaming studies to HCI design and information visualization. Obviously, this is going to be the next discipline to gain academic renown, especially in dispiplines neighboring media studies. (I've been preaching this for years now, even though I'm not a gamer myself.) And again, it's the tekkies who understand this first. Humanities-informed media studies are mind-numbingly passive and reactive a lot of times -- this is one of the reasons why I can't see any reconquest in Nelson's sense happening. (The other being that 'humanities computing' as a discipline in its own right cannot exist for methodological reasons, but that's a different issue.)
Second, I'd agree that geotagging & Co. make sense in a 3D context, but I'm not so sure about 3D replacements to browsing or file system hierarchies.
At least on the visual level, maybe the page metaphor is not entirely bad after all. This is also something that didn't quite convince me in Ted Nelson's recent (well, re-launched) stuff: that idea of tunnely-funnely 3D text surfaces does not work for me. It should be possible to build much more intertwingled and transcluded text-based services even while sticking to the page metaphor (more Memex-style). After all, that is a nice enough problem to think about anyways. (To quote Richard MacManus: ' If this is "simple", then it's a definition of "simple" from a parallel universe '.)
Posted by: markus at November 2, 2005 1:43 PMTest: ich habe jetzt bei Typekey registriert.
"Immediate publishing" scheint trotzdem nicht zu gehen?
yes. much to agree (hey, why don't you write in a post?): media studies will have to do gaming studies. Humanities-informed media studies are mind-numbingly passive and reactive. Nelsons warcry is more a vision than reality. 3D interfaces are, and will be, dead. 2D page/text is far more powerful, though not as "electric paper". and what i meant with geo-tagging: there is only one 3D. the geo-environment itself, that gets tagged. so this environment may function as a mobile interface.
Posted by: martin at November 3, 2005 12:13 AM